Wednesday, October 7 - Some Exciting Changes...

thread: 8 messages  |  last: about 2 years ago  |  started: wednesday, october 7, 2009, 8:30 pm pdt


#1  |  Mike Ho (Sunnyvale, CA) United States of America Qcodo Administrator
Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 8:30 PM PDT

Hello Everyone!

I know it's been a long time... too long... but I wanted to give everyone a quick head's up.

Thanks for folks who have been tracking activity on github <http://www.github.com/qcodo> and emailing me with suggestions, comments, feedback, etc.

I'm excited to announce that in the next week or so, we will be launching the new Qcodo.com.

It's a complete redesign of the website, and it will incorporate most of the infrastructure-related changes to the Qcodo community that I've been speaking over the past year (feel free and see some of the prior blog posts about this for more info).

Along with the relaunch of the Qcodo.com website, I will be moving the entire Qcodo infrastructure to a new VPS hosting provider at MediaTemple (the current colo that we have been using for Qcodo.com, Quasidea, etc. has gotten too burdensome to continue maintaining).

Because of this, I did want to announce that we will be seeing some downtime -- not sure when this will be yet, but I'm leaning on Monday or Tuesday evening US/PDT time next week (Oct 12 or 13).  I will try and do as much DNS-related migration ahead of time as possible... but given DNS caching and propagation, the downtime could be as much as 3-6 hours.  I'll let everyone know as soon as I figure the scheduling for it, for sure.

And finally, within a week or so after that I'll be putting up the next revs of the Qcodo framework, itself, which will incorporate the framework-side of the infrastructure changes, including what I'm calling QPM (Qcodo Package Manager), allowing folks a much easier way to contribute improvements, bug fixes, modifications to Qcodo in an organized and non-centralized manner (e.g. removing the bottleneck of myself or any other core maintainer).

Lots of changes coming soon... feel free to post or email me with any specific questions.

And on a final note, for those of you who might be at the upcoming 2009 Zend PHP Conference, stop by!  I will be speaking at the conference later in the week.  Let me know if you're around!

--Mike

#2  |  apselico (Trujillo, PE) Peru
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 9:47 AM PDT

Sounds great Mike Ho!

We are happy you are comming back,
congratulations!
We will be waiting for the changes you are talking about.

best regards
Apselico

#3  |  Sebastien Dube (Guelph, Ontario) Canada
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 11:11 AM PDT

Can't wait to see all these changes!

Regards,

Sebastien

#4  |  Ken Hawkins (Atlanta, GA) United States of America
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 1:07 PM PDT

Glad to hear it! I'm looking forward to good things Mike!

#5  |  Vass Arpad (Szentegyháza, RO) Romania Qcodo Core Contributor
Thursday, October 8, 2009, 1:38 PM PDT

Welcome back with the good news Mike :)!

Keep up the good work!

Regards,

Arpi.

#6  |  Wouter Everse (Biezelinge, Zeeland, The Netherlands) Netherlands (Holland, Europe)
Friday, October 9, 2009, 7:43 AM PDT

Hello Mike,

Souds great!

I have a question though because I'm a bit confused: is it QCodo or QCubed I should base my applications on (w.r.t. the future and support)?

Grz | Wouter

#7  |  VexedPanda (Calgary, AB) Canada
Friday, October 9, 2009, 3:13 PM PDT

Note that Mike Ho is not involved in QCubed, and the QCubed developers have no control over QCodo, so there's really no right answer there.

QCubed is an attempt to take QCodo's base, and move it forward through community efforts while QCodo is Mike Ho's baby.

Of course, it sounds like QCodo may become more open as well pretty soon here, so it becomes even more difficult to tell.

The people behind QCubed have no intention of letting it going away at this point though, and will probably copy any good features / bug fixes introduced in QCodo. I would hope that QCodo would likewise use any good work created as part of the QCubed framework to further it's own features.

So regarding the future, it sounds like they're both still planning on being around and improving. Regarding support, right now the QCubed site is a lot more active, and the core contributers are responding to questions and suggestions while the QCodo forums are rather stagnant, and this is Mike Ho's first post in quite some time. But he's promising to change things, so it's hard to say.

#8  |  Mike Ho (Sunnyvale, CA) United States of America Qcodo Administrator
Friday, October 9, 2009, 4:15 PM PDT

Wouter,

As VexedPanda stated, QCubed is technically a fork of Qcodo, and is a completely independent project, separate from Qcodo.

I have spoken directly with Mike Hostetler, who was the one who primarily started the Qcubed fork.  And although we all would have hoped that we could eventually combine and become one framework and community once again, unfortunately due to the different directions that each project wanted to go, this does not seem like a possibility.

However, in my opinion I feel both frameworks are offering great featuresets and doing some exciting things with regards to future development work and such... and so in terms of which may be the best fit, I think it's up to each individual to decide.

As the pieces I have blogged about are put into place and launched over the next few days, I'll be more than happy to share some additional thoughts and insights.  But until then, realize that both communities are growing and here to stay... and both frameworks should be offering some great choices in features and functionalities for the open source world.



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